问HN:你们有什么建议在后末日世界中重建工业?
背景:<p>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solarpunk<p>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43236520<p>我喜欢Solapunk或类似概念。然而,我无法理解在后末日世界中如何重启现代工业。<p>情景:我认为致命病毒的爆发比热核战争更可能且更具破坏性。假设这样的疫情摧毁了大部分政府和人口,之后只有地方社区开始出现。<p>我们如何重启现代工业?我相信我们可以在一段时间内从商店和仓库中搜刮物资,但最终我们需要重建现代技术的很大一部分,甚至是全部。<p>首先,我们如何从原材料中生产钢铁、铝和其他常见金属?我们如何实际开采它们?我们如何生产抗生素、针头以及医院所需的一切?我们如何修建道路(我认为这其实并不太难)?我们如何制造交通工具——我们肯定不想依赖动物?我们如何建立水处理工厂,或者至少制造水处理工具和药片?作为一名软件工程师,我觉得我对现代工业一无所知。<p>现代工业对于任何小型社区来说都太复杂,甚至连思考它们的可能性都很困难。至少需要有人保存一些详细的文档,以便我们的后代有机会重建它们。以钢铁生产为例,假设开采不是问题(实际上是),未来的世代需要知道这样的工厂是如何规划、建造和运营的。我从未在这样的工厂工作过,但我敢打赌,仅仅一个工厂就有大量的文献。百科全书是远远不够的。它们不会教你检查所有管道和机器所需的1万项检查。只有工厂和行业协会才会保存这样的文档,我想。<p>我们如何建立这样的知识保存项目?它们必须详细到即使是外行人也能开始学习。我们如何存储这些文档?如果我们以电子方式存储,就需要确保未来的世代有工具可以访问它们。我们还需要在世界各地都有这样的项目副本,因为后末日的社区规模小且相距遥远。<p>我还认为这样的文档应该包括小规模项目,以便社区能够实际使用。如果社区只有1000人,一个需要10000人的项目就没有任何意义。<p>你怎么看?你认为你的国家已经做好准备了吗?
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Context:<p>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solarpunk<p>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43236520<p>I love the concept of Solarpunk or anything similar. However, I fail to understand how to reboot modern industry in a post-apocalypse world.<p>Scenario: I think a deadly virus outbreak is far more likely and devastating than a thermal nuclear war. Let's assume that such an outbreak took out most of the governments and the population, and only local communities start to show up afterwards.<p>How do you reboot modern industry? I'm sure we can scavenge stores and storehouses for a while, but eventually we need to rebuild a very large portion of modern technologies, if not all of them.<p>For a start, how do we produce steel, aluminum and other common metal from raw materials? How do we actually mine them? How do we product antibiotics, needles and everything we need in a hospital? How do we build roads (I think this is actually not too hard)? How do we build transportation tools -- for sure we don't want to rely on animals? How do we build water processing factories, or at least, build water processing tools and pills? As a SWE I feel I know nothing about modern industries.<p>Modern industries are too complex for any small community to even start to think about them. Someone gotta at least preserve some detailed documents for everything so that our future generations have a chance to rebuild them. Take steel production as an example, assuming mining is not a problem (it is), future generations need to know how such a factory is planned, built and operated. I never worked in such a factory but I bet there are tons of papers for just one of them. Encyclopedias won't cut. They don't teach you the 10,000 checks you need to check for all those pipelines and machines. Only factories and industry associations keep such documents, I think.<p>How do we build such a knowledge preservation project? They gotta be so detailed that even laymen can start learning. How do we store them? If we store them electronically, we need to make sure that future generations have the tools to access them. We also need copies of such a project everywhere in the world, because post-apocalypse communities are small and far from each other.<p>I also think such documentations should include smaller scale projects so that communities can actually start using it. If the community only has 1,000 people, a project that needs 10,000 doesn't make any sense.<p>What do you think? Do you think your country already has it covered?