问HN:Cruise自动驾驶汽车发生了什么?

1作者: eh_why_not9 个月前原帖
现在时间已经过去很久,我在想这里是否有人有内情,并愿意分享他们的见解。 可用的公开信息的粗略总结: - 他们在2023年发生了一起事故,由于没有立即停车,导致一名路人被另一辆车撞伤。 - 他们受到调查,随后加州暂时吊销了他们的驾驶执照。 - 到2023年底,发生了大规模裁员,包括高管离职。有报道称,他们的运营过于依赖人力/需要过多的人为干预。 - 在2024年,有消息称他们可能在重新启动(可能在加州以外)。 - 在2024年12月,通用汽车完全停止了对他们的资金支持,放弃了自动驾驶/机器人出租车,转而专注于驾驶辅助。一些分析师声称,这部分原因(除了财务问题)是出于政治考量,他们不想在新政府下与特斯拉对抗。 我总觉得整体情况中缺少了一些东西: - 虽然在Waymo之后,他们似乎仍然远远领先于其他公司;也许他们已经完成了90%的进展。 - 其他公司,比如特斯拉,发生了许多事故,包括致命事故。但对于这些事故,反应并没有那么迅速。预计自动驾驶汽车在不断改进的过程中会发生事故;为什么这样一起甚至不是致命的事件会引发如此剧烈的反应? - 当然,Cruise可能只是通用汽车某些财务高层表格中的一行,因为它尚未为他们带来利润而被抛弃。但要放弃这样一项多年的投资,必定还有其他更深层次的问题: - 例如,他们是否意识到/决定技术架构在某种程度上存在缺陷,存在无法突破的障碍,阻止他们实现剩下的10%?
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Now that plenty of time has passed, I&#x27;m wondering if someone here had an inside track and is willing to share their insights.<p>Rough summary of the available public information:<p>- They had an accident in 2023 injuring, by not stopping instantly, a passerby who was hit by another car.<p>- They were investigated and then California temporarily suspended their license to drive around.<p>- By the end of 2023 there was a massive layoff, including top executives leaving. There were claims that the operation was too human-dependent &#x2F; required too much human interventions.<p>- In 2024 there were some news that they were starting up again (outside CA maybe).<p>- In Dec 2024, GM dropped their funding altogether and gave up on self-driving &#x2F; robotaxi, refocusing on driver assistance instead. Some analysts claimed that was in part (in addition to finances) due to politics and them not wanting to face off with Tesla under the new administration.<p>It always seemed to me that something was missing from the overall picture:<p>- While second to Waymo, they still seemed already far ahead from others; maybe they were, say, 90% there.<p>- Others, like Tesla, had many accidents, including fatal ones. But for those the gauntlet was not thrown that quickly. It is expected that self-driving cars will have accidents as they continue to improve; why would one such incident, that wasn&#x27;t even fatal, have such a dramatic response?<p>- Sure it&#x27;s possible that Cruise was just a row in a spreadsheet to some finance higher-ups at GM, and it was dropped like that because it wasn&#x27;t making them money yet. But to drop such a multi-year investment has to have been something else, a deeper problem:<p>- E.g. Did they realize&#x2F;decide that the technical architecture was somehow flawed and there was an unbreakable barrier that prevents them from achieving that remaining 10%?