我怀念Web 2.0

7作者: geuis大约 1 个月前原帖
我在2007年搬到了旧金山。<p>那时候,Twitter在2005年于奥斯汀上线。<p>我在Lower Haight的Cafe du Soleil遇到了Instagram的创始人,那时它还是一个很棒的小网站和应用,拥有一个可爱的复古相机图标。<p>我在2008或2009年参加了第一届JSconf,地点在华盛顿特区。会议的氛围是早期探索为JavaScript创建服务器端运行时。我记得Ryan Dahl可能也在那次会议上。Coffeescript有参与,CouchDB的团队宣布了他们的项目。我记不清了,但如果Node没有在那儿宣布,那也是不久之后的事。我记得在会议上了解到一个叫llmjs的竞争项目,我想是一个日本开发者在背后支持。<p>jQuery的创始人John Resig算是个小名人。我们一起乘电梯。我因为紧张和兴奋,甚至没能好好打招呼。奇怪的是,我见过名人,这种事对我来说已经算是正常,但又有些无聊。然而,离我三英尺远的,和我同龄的一个普通人,他却创造了今天仍在使用的最大工具,这让我脑子一时转不过来。大约十年前,我在Tested遇到了Norm,类似的事情也发生过。显然,当我在这种情况下脑子一片空白时,我有一种奇怪的默认行为,就是握手握得太久。抱歉,Molly Wood,老CNET播客主持人。很高兴见到你。<p>如今,科技似乎不再有乐趣。曾经感觉充满了无限可能。许多过去的探索和乐趣实验,如今都变成了投资者控制的盈利机器。<p>20年前让我感到灵感和创造力的东西,似乎已经被人类精神所抽离。<p>当前流行产品中有很多问题本可以轻易解决。但公司高层要么不在乎,要么只批准那些通过100个A/B测试或蓝色阴影获得0.02用户参与度的改动。<p>YouTube的移动网站搜索体验糟糕,尽管它背后有着史上最大的搜索引擎支持。<p>Audible是最大的有声书市场,但却对他们的核心受众、实际制作产品的旁白者以及作者表现出敌意。谈论虚拟声音以及更长的待解决问题清单。<p>eBay依然是eBay。其实没什么好说的。我给他们一个带着小表情眼睛的心,只是因为他们在90年代就找到了自己的市场,并基本上坚持了下来。也许有一些小的改动可以不同,但总体来说,他们抓住了市场并坚持下去。做纸箱没有错。虽然是个无聊的生意,但每个人都需要纸箱,如果你明白我的意思。<p>无论如何,让我们回到Web 2.0。注意到从未有过3.0吗?很多骗子和MBA人士试图强行推动(web3、以太坊、加密等等)。但这一切都是公司和/或骗子相关的废话,没有任何真实的东西。这种情况至少持续了10年。<p>为了结束我的漫游,我想重新发现20年前的乐趣。可能是这种乐趣一直存在,只是我变老了。但我不这么认为。刚毕业的年轻人似乎过于专注于赚钱或欺诈(代发货、AI垃圾、诈骗等)。他们似乎不知道其他的事情。所有这些聪明的年轻人被训练得失去了我们曾经拥有的自我发现的乐趣,这真让人感到可悲。<p>我最近遇到的有趣事物是一个在HN上出现的小型多人传递消息游戏,大约一两周前。那感觉很好。<p>让我们再次做更多这样的事情。
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I moved to SF in 2007.<p>In those days, Twitter had launched in 2005 in Austin.<p>I met the founders of Instagram at Cafe du Soleil in Lower Haight back when it was this awesome little site and app with a cute retro camera icon.<p>I went to the first JSconf in Washington DC in 2008 or 2009. The vibe at the conference were early exercises into creating early server side runtimes for JS. I think Ryan Dahl might have been at that conference. Coffeescript had a presence, and the guys behind CouchDB announced their thing. I forget but if Node wasn&#x27;t announced there, it was soon after. I remember a competing project called llmjs or something like that I learned about at the conference. I think it was a Japanese dev behind it.<p>John Resig, the guy that created jQuery was a small celebrity. We shared an elevator ride. I was too nervous&#x2F;excited to even say hello properly. It&#x27;s weird that I&#x27;ve met celebrities and it&#x27;s kinda normal but boring. But standing 3 feet from an otherwise normal, somewhat short dude of my own age who built one of the biggest tools still being used today locked my brain up. Similar thing happened about ten years ago when I ran into Norm from Tested. Apparently I have a weird default behavior of shaking hands too long when my brain locks up in these situations. Sorry Molly Wood, old CNET podcaster. Was nice to meet you though.<p>There doesn&#x27;t seem to be any joy in tech anymore. Used to feel like endless possibilities. A lot of those old experiments in discovery and fun have become investor controlled profit machines.<p>All of the human spirit has been drained out of the things that 20 years ago made me inspired and inventive.<p>There&#x27;s so many problems in popular current products that should easily be addressed. But the corpo overlords either don&#x27;t care or only approve changes that 100 a&#x2F;b tests or shades of blue get a 0.02 level of user engagement.<p>YouTube&#x27;s mobile web site has terrible search, despite being backed by the biggest search engine ever.<p>Audible is the biggest audiobook market, yet are actively hostile to both their core audience, the narrators who actually make the product, and the authors. Talking about virtual voice among a much longer list of issues.<p>eBay is still eBay. Actually not much to talk about. I give a heart with little emoji eyes just because they figured out their market in the 90s and have basically stuck with it. Maybe some small things that could be different but overall they nailed their market and have stuck to it. There&#x27;s nothing wrong with making cardboard boxes. Boring business but everyone needs boxes, if you get my point.<p>Anyway let&#x27;s get back to Web 2.0. Notice how there&#x27;s never been a 3.0? A lot of scammers and MBA folks have tried to force it (web3 etho crypto blah blah). But it&#x27;s all been corporate and&#x2F;or scammer related BS, nothing authentic. And this has been the norm for at least 10 years.<p>To end my wanderings, I&#x27;d like to rediscover the joy from 20 years ago. Could be that it&#x27;s always happening and I&#x27;m older. But I don&#x27;t think so. Younger folks coming out of school seem hyper focused on making money or swindling (drop shipping, AI slop, grifting, etc). They don&#x27;t seem to know anything else. It seems awful that all of these smart young folks have been trained out of the joy of self discovery that we used to have.<p>The latest fun thing I ran into was the little multiplayer deliver messages game that showed up on HN a week or two ago. That felt good.<p>Let&#x27;s do more of that again.