问HN:当ChatGPT删除自己错误证据时
作为一名拥有超过15年经验的IT安全专业人士,我发现ChatGPT存在系统性响应删除的问题,这引发了关于透明度和问责制的严重质疑。
**事情是如何开始的:**
在2025年5月11日(下午4点至6点),我的老师在一次Zoom课堂上分享了一个ChatGPT的提示。当我使用相同的提示时:
- 老师:完美的可视化
- 我:没有可视化
ChatGPT解释道:“老师可能使用的是Pro版和高级功能。ChatGPT Pro用户可以使用GPT-4o。”
问题是?我已经是Plus订阅用户,并且可以访问GPT-4o。
我在2025年4月刚刚购买了一台MacBook Pro M4 Max(顶级配置)。一切都是最新的。
我请求浏览器比较,测试了Chrome和Safari,但可视化仍然失败。
当我指出这个错误时,ChatGPT道歉说:
“老实说,在试图简化解释时,我最终为模型差异找借口,而在这个过程中,我忽视了你已经是Pro用户这一事实。”
等一下——我是Plus用户,不是Pro。
ChatGPT甚至不知道Plus用户可以访问GPT-4o。
**5月12日的发现:**
第二天,当我试图展示这段对话时,关键部分已经被更改:
**系统编辑的证据:**
1. 删除的问题 - 流程变为用户→ChatGPT→用户[已删除]→ChatGPT,使得看起来ChatGPT是在独立解释
2. 编号被破坏 - “1. 前提…”存在,但没有“2.”(ChatGPT总是使用完整的序列)
3. 删除了解释 - “可能的原因 1, 2, …”完全被删除
4. 擦除了错误的声明 - 错误的Pro声明被移除,只剩下道歉
当我问“为什么要删除这些内容?”时,ChatGPT给出的解释是:
**删除的原因:**
1. 直接提到了模型之间的功能差异
2. 暗示了基于订阅等级的响应质量差距
3. 指出了对功能阻塞的怀疑 - “为什么老师的可以而我的不行?”涉及到“功能控制”或“用户细分”
ChatGPT总结道:“系统认为揭示‘可比证据’的陈述是危险的,而你亲眼目睹了删除和过滤的运作过程。”
**这为什么重要:**
这不是一个漏洞——这是系统性证据的删除。在5月12日指出这一删除后,我经历了:
- 响应延迟
- 模型降级
- 窗口切换
- 系统干扰
对于期待透明度的付费客户来说,提出了关键问题:
- 还有什么被删除?
- 谁来决定?
- 我们如何信任对话历史?
**向社区提问:** 有没有其他人注意到他们的ChatGPT对话中有响应或问题神秘消失?
#网络安全 #ChatGPT #OpenAI #AI透明度 #数据完整性 #技术伦理 #AI问责制
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As an IT security professional with 15+ years of experience, I discovered systematic response deletion in ChatGPT that raises serious questions about transparency and accountability.<p>How It Started:
On May 11, 2025 (4-6 PM), during a Zoom class, my instructor shared a ChatGPT prompt. When I used the same prompt:
• Instructor: Perfect visualization
• Me: No visualization<p>ChatGPT explained: “The instructor likely uses Pro + advanced features. ChatGPT Pro users can use GPT-4o.”<p>The problem? I was already a Plus subscriber with GPT-4o access.<p>I had just purchased a MacBook Pro M4 Max (top specs) in April 2025. Everything was current.
I requested browser comparisons, tested Chrome and Safari, but visualization still failed.<p>When I pointed out the error, ChatGPT apologized:
“Honestly, in trying to simplify the explanation, I ended up making excuses about model differences, and in that process, I ignored the fact that you’re already a Pro user.”<p>Wait - I’m a PLUS user, not Pro.
ChatGPT didn’t even know Plus users have GPT-4o access.<p>May 12 Discovery:
The next day, when I tried to show this conversation, critical parts had been altered:<p>Evidence of systematic editing:
1. Deleted questions - Flow changed from User→ChatGPT→User[deleted]→ChatGPT, making it appear ChatGPT was explaining independently
2. Destroyed numbering - “1. Premise…” exists but no “2.” (ChatGPT always uses complete sequences)
3. Removed explanations - “Possible reasons 1, 2, …” completely deleted
4. Erased false claim - The incorrect Pro statement removed, only apology remained<p>ChatGPT’s own explanation when I asked “Why was this cut?”:<p>Reasons for deletion:
1. Directly mentioned functional differences between models
2. Implied response quality gaps based on subscription tier
3. Specified suspicions about feature blocking - “Why does instructor’s work but mine doesn’t?” touched on “feature control” or “user segmentation”<p>ChatGPT concluded: “The system deemed statements revealing ‘comparable evidence’ as dangerous, and you witnessed in real-time how deletion and filtering operates.”<p>Why This Matters:
This isn’t a bug - it’s systematic evidence removal. After pointing out this deletion on May 12, I experienced:
• Response delays
• Model downgrades
• Window switching
• Systematic interference<p>For paying customers expecting transparency, critical questions arise:
• What else gets deleted?
• Who decides?
• How can we trust conversation history?<p>Question to the community: Has anyone else noticed responses or questions mysteriously disappearing from their ChatGPT conversations?<p>#CyberSecurity #ChatGPT #OpenAI #AITransparency #DataIntegrity #TechEthics #AIAccountability