请问HN:帮我核实一下我关于电动车和太阳能的数字是否合理。

1作者: zahlman2 天前原帖
最近我一直在思考太阳能,特别是在某些应用中,似乎需要昂贵且笨重的钢结构来固定太阳能板。我还在考虑电动车,以及电动机的效率远高于内燃机,即使在不考虑能源来源是否可再生的情况下。 于是我想到了一个主意:为什么不直接在车辆的车顶上安装太阳能板呢? 显然,几块标准尺寸的太阳能板无法满足汽车发动机的峰值功率需求。但电动车确实有电池。我找到的数据表明,典型的太阳能板在阳光充足的情况下可以产生约200瓦/平方米的电力,而典型电动车的能耗约为200瓦时/公里。因此,考虑到车顶上有几平方米的可用空间,几个小时的日照就能支持数公里的行驶。你可以开车上班,把车停在露天停车场,或许能捕获足够的能量来覆盖回家的路程。总体来说,这至少可以满足部分电力需求,从长远来看可以节省不少费用。 我设想一个小型(比如边长10厘米)的太阳能板系统,安装在轻量架构上,配备简单的反馈控制系统,能够在一天内调整太阳能板的角度以面向太阳。整个系统将集成在车辆的车顶上,覆盖有玻璃或聚碳酸酯材料,这样就不必担心雪、风等对太阳能板的影响。当然,这意味着要放弃天窗。 我认为这些数据实际上应该比平均情况更好,因为太阳能板可以直接产生汽车所需的直流电压——省去任何逆变器,避免显著的传输损耗。太阳能板只需能够为已经存在的电池充电(这是必需的)。 过去我考虑过在停车场上方安装带有太阳能板的屋顶。使用汽车的车顶则可以将成本和节省分摊到个人,避免昂贵的基础设施(这可能还会引发政治或监管问题)。 这个想法是否存在我没有考虑到的重大问题?有没有人认真研究过类似的项目? [1]: 例如 https://www.energydawnice.com/solar-panel-output-per-square-meter;这看起来像是经过SEO优化的内容,但我找到的其他资料也差不多,似乎大致一致。虽然根据我对日照和现代太阳能板效率的了解,我想应该可以做到比这更好。 [2]: https://ev-database.org/cheatsheet/energy-consumption-electric-car
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